Sunday, May 28, 2006

We Shall Overcome

I was reading this article and felt a sense of hope. Despite what many readers on this site have said, religious groups do have power, and the facts of the article prove this. But they also prove a couple of other things, too. For one, we Christians are not the only religious group (although we are, of course, the only group that speaks the truth and can get a person to Heaven) fighting for the hearts and minds of the human race. Hindus, Muslims, and Scientologists all lay claim to lost souls; and while they are undoubtedly all hell-bound, they are vigorous in their defense of their beliefs. And so too must we. And noticing how effective these groups have been, we would do well to mimic some of their efforts, putting the fear of God into larger society, such that those who refuse to accept Jesus Christ into their heart will at least be taught to respect those that do and lead good Christian lives, regardless of whether they like it or not. Of course, one of the many things that makes Christianity better than other religions is that we believe in redemption. Only God can play God, which is why the death penalty and terrorism are evil. So unlike some of these heathen religions, we should never use threats of death, but instead more gently shape society with boycotts and book burnings, with random acts of disobedience, where our children suddenly pull out their Bibles and sing hymns during school and laugh at the non-believers, where Christian bosses fire their non-Christian employees, and where Christians everywhere create chaos, generally. And people will fall in line as we take greater control over every facet of their life. Just look at the aforementioned article. The average person just wants to live a comfortable, quiet life -- they don't want to be forced to confront book burnings on the way to work, to lose profits, to deal with any type of sacrifice at all, unless they truly believe in something. And that's the thing about secularists and followers of the Devil, generally: they don't truly believe in Satan and what he stands for (at least most of them); they've simply been tricked and/or enticed to follow his way, because he knows how to appeal to their basest desires. So make your average secularist suffer a little bit, taking a way some income and/or a sense of security, and he will step in line. My proof of this fact is that America has recently accepted torture, has accepted the government spying on them, has supported a ban on flag burning -- all things that, to me at least, seem pretty antithetical to a "freedom" loving nation and all because Americans want to be safe. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe that people are or should be free; in fact, the only freedom I support for anyone is the freedom to worship Jesus Christ and the freedom to select a Church (as long as the Church is officially sanctioned by a Christian government); however, at least as an outsider looking in, you'd think that people who do believe in Democracy and freedom would get a little bit more upset. But they don't; and this makes me laugh a knowing laugh, because I know eventually we will be able to further instill our Christian values into society at large, such that where once we had to boycott and burn books to force non-believers to submit to our will, we can use pain and suffering and humiliation.


Anonymous Ryven said...

If Jesus was alive right now, and heard the things you're saying in his name, he'd beat you down like he did the moneychangers.

I may not be Christian, but I can certainly say that the filth you spew sullies Jesus' name, and he would surely burst into tears to hear the things you want to inflict upon people, using his name to justify them.

5:03 AM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

ryven -- i highly doubt that someone who openly admits to not being Christian could ever speak for the Lord Jesus Christ.

10:27 AM  
Blogger Wrin said...

Christ would indeed be offended by your violent and oppressive principles, sir.

12:28 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

Your concept of Jesus and who he actually was are like apples and oranges, Nathaniel. Your concept of Jesus and the bible are more like some sick and violent fanfiction.

Do you know why people obsess, Nathaniel? It's because they have a big, empty hole within them, and they struggle to fill it, so they can find something that identifies them. You reek of obsession, mostly because you've already admitted to being abused. So you're obviously missing love. Like a lot of people, you turned toward religion, but because you lacked the love to begin with, you've twisted these beliefs and the love they're supposed to signify into something violent, sick and derranged to feed your obsession and need for self worth.

Get some help. Please. For your own sake.

3:36 PM  
Anonymous dk said...

I have something he can fill that empty void with!


I wanna see what Nathaniel thinks about the character "Drunk and Bitter Jesus"

Or "Aryan Jesus" for that matter!

If he won't here other people's logic then he will face my hate!

Have a hate filled day,

4:08 PM  
Anonymous Led Head said...

"Get some help. Please. For your own sake."

I second that emotion, Ryven.

I wish there was something I could add, but you always manage to beat me to the punch = p.

12:37 AM  
Blogger Wrin said...

Oh good grief don't get him started after Ghastly. Great. Now he'll have another "please pray for them" link. There should be a sign: "do not feed the deranged Christian want-to-be."

7:29 AM  
Anonymous Speedy said...

What's the deal here? This blog's been up for a long time, but people haven't caught on that this the whole thing is a farce? Or are the commenters part of the joke,too?


12:52 PM  
Anonymous speedy said...

Never mind. Upon further inspection, most of the commenters are the same people- no doubt the author's alter egos. Whoever came up with this, congratulations. It's funny as, ahem, Hell.


1:05 PM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

speedy -- i get that a lot. apparently holding steadfast in one's beliefs is so outrageous an idea in this day in age people tend to think i am joking. but i am not. i believe with all my heart that Jesus Christ was the son of God and died for our sins. i also believe that hell awaits for all of those who refuse to accept this truth. that means you!

honestly, everytime the hellbound seem to think they're in on some kind of elaborate joke on my part i feel like quitting this site altogether; but then i can hear God calling me in my dreams, demanding that i move forward with His message.

3:30 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

The same people, hm?

I know my fiance uses my computer to post on this site, perhaps that would clear up a bit of confusion?

Exactly how many posters are the same people?

9:46 PM  
Anonymous TSC said...

I don't think the problem is which people are posting from which computers, I think the problem comes from Nathaniel giving nothing that even borders on being proof that this is not in fact a farce. Unless he's done so in one of the other threads whilst we weren't looking. He's never given the name of his church, a church web site, or anything else that would clue us in to proof of this mans existence. Has he even given a specific town that he lives in?

Possibly the full name of his preacher, or even his full name. Hell, do we even know that Nathaniel is his real name? There's no real way to be sure.

Whether its all a lie or not I'm just enjoying debating with someone as crazy as this guy.

Too Much Fun,

2:07 AM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

TSC, Ryven, Speedy -- of course i'm not going to give you any definite information about myself, because i want to remain anonymous, lest the crazies of the internet (i.e. the serial killers, child pornographers, witches, and devil worshippers, generally) try to find me. but that doesn't make this site a farce. i mean, none of you have shared anything about yourselves, and i'm not accusing you of faking your eternal damnation.

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

I'm not sharing my name and all that sensitive info, because of internet fraud and all of that. But here goes.

TSC and I deliver packages for City Parcel as Independant Contractors. We live in a 3 bedroom house with a big, dumb black and tan dog, 2 rats and some goldfish. is my artpage with my journal on it.

We are currently planning our wedding, drive a crappy '78 Chevy Nova and live with our roomate Tim.

We don't have a church we go to, or anything like that.

Our relatives all live within the vicinity, which is in Spokane, Washinton. My mother sells model ships she's built on this site.

We both went to John R. Rogers High School, were both in band, while TSC was also a boyscout and in drama. I was drum major for my band senior year, and was section leader for the clarinets for 3.

Your turn.

1:38 PM  
Blogger Wrin said...

That's way too much information to be sharing with someone like him, Ryv. Can you edit or delete your post and do less, for the sake of safety?

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

Nopers, I can't. But I'm not really worried, just calling his bluff. Besides, if he tries anything, like coming out to try and find me (without an address, or our real names....)he'll meet the business end of my dad's shotgun.

I didn't tell him my relative's names. I didn't tell him where in Spokane we lived. He can try and figure out who we are through our work, 'cept that he can't get info like that. Especially without a phone number.

If he trashes our car, more power too him. We could use the money.

2:16 PM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

ryven -- first of all, i'm insulted that you think me some kind of teenage vandal. or worse, maybe you think i am some kind of violent monster. in any event, the only time that anyone has to worry that i'd ever track them down is when Jesus makes his glorious appearing. then, of course, i would be obligated to help cast all the remaining sinners into eternal hellfire, so i would indeed try to find people such as yourself. that isn't to say i wouldn't like to round you all up right now for bible education, but it would probably be against the law. i also pray that one day there will be listening devices and cameras in every household so especially moral people within the community can monitor our citizens to ensure they do not sin. i'd also like a device to be invented that can read people's thoughts so we can tell who even thinks unGodly, sinful thoughts. i mention this only because the thought of me going out of my way to pay you a visit got me imagining this perfect world where everything and everyone is righteous and good.

2:47 PM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

ryven -- i live in Richmond, but i'm not from there. i have a wife named amy, two children, two dogs. and that's about all i'm going to reveal...

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Speedy said...

Stop it, you're killing me.

Seriously, Ryven/Nathaniel/etc., this place is funny enough that you might think about doing it for money.


7:01 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

Hey, uh, Speedy, I dunno where you're getting this "we're all posting from the same place" thing, but whatever. But I can assure you wer're not the same person.

7:58 PM  
Anonymous Led Head said...

No, we're not.

Hello Speedy. My name is Led Head. I like Rock Music of all kinds, Harry Potter, shagging with my husband, and plan to become a teacher very soon. Which automatically makes me a witch, a whore, and part of the lesbian cabal, at least in Nathaniel's eyes.

As for where I live, it's in the southern part of the country, although I won't specify where.

10:45 PM  
Anonymous Snazzlepuff the Mischevilous said...

And I'm Snazzlepuff the Mischevious...or Mischevilous, as Natty boy here calls me. I'm about three and a half feet tall, have pointed ears, and come from a place called Krynn. I am what the humans in my world call a Kender. Perhaps you've heard of my great-great uncle Tasslehoff. Wish he were still around. He never argued with religious fanatics before, he doesn't know how much fun it can be. It's almost as much fun as being whooshed into a duckpond.

10:57 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

Ohgod Kenders.....

With those nifty staff-slings, no doubt?

1:47 AM  
Blogger Wrin said...

Good lord somebody is way too in character. At least he isn't from Mt. Nevermind.

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Snazzlepuff Mischevilous said...

In "character?" I'm hurt and insulted by that implication! I'm not roleplaying! I'm a real live Kender from the world of Krynn! I just wish Uncle Tas and all his friends could be here. Especially Raistlin. He'd have had *loads* of fun with these guys!

Zeppelin CDs? What Zeppelin CDs are you talking about, Led Head? *goes through pouch* Oh, these? I wonder how these got in here. You must have dropped them!

*flips topknot, twirls hoopak, and shoots Nathaniel and Parnell in the butt with rocks*

There! Now do you believe I'm a real kender?

11:15 PM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

dk -- i checked your filthy site, and i could find no character "drunk and bitter jesus." however, i'm sure that if i had, it could not have been nearly as horrible as the Japanimation film i was once forced to watch called "Legend of the Demon Womb."

11:22 PM  
Anonymous dk said...

Well then. Here's a highlight reel of some of my favorites from that comic!

The most recent "Drunk and Bitter Jesus" comic:

Here's a particularly lovely one for ya:

Ah yes, the good Christian boy and Freddy's version of "Chick Tracts":

AND as a grand finally! Aryan Jesus:

1:10 AM  

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