Thursday, May 04, 2006

Turning Our Children Into an Army For Christ

I don't have much time to pontificate, but I found this article, which believers and non should all read.

These Jesus camps are a brilliant idea. Children have very open minds and can be guided more easily toward both good and evil. If we all send our children away to these camps during the summer, rather than plop them in front of the television or take them to God-less, pornographic movies, we can harden their minds against the Devil.

In fact, these camps are good idea for adults, too, especially known sinners. I envision something like the labor camps we've heard so much about in North Korea and China, except by no means would these spiritual criminals be treated like slaves, but instead guided by an iron fist toward the light of our Lord and Savior.


Anonymous Ryven said...

Yay for taking advantage of a child's impressionability and brainwashing them for your own means. *rolls eyes* How cowardly.

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Matthew said...

Oh, you mean like a concentration camp for Christian children? What a way to kill off our innocent children and turn them into mindless drones.

8:36 PM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

ryven -- i'm not sure what's cowardly about indoctrinating children into the Bible at a young age. i just look at what the influence of the Devil has done to people such as yourself and matthew and am more determined than every that every child should be marched off to Jesus camp to learn the glories and wrath of God.

12:15 PM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

matthew -- if i remember correctly, concentration camps were used to kill people and experiment on them. Jesus camp is totally different, for bringing children to the Lord will give them infinite life.

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

It's cowardly because apparently you can't do your own dirty work, so you've gotta brainwash your children to do it for you. Cowardly and lazy. And evil.

7:05 PM  
Anonymous Matthew said...

No, EXTERMINATION camps were for killing people. Concentration camps were for prisoners of war, or in your case, prisoners of hypocritical Christians who refuse to let people make their own choices.

9:34 PM  
Anonymous Led-Head said...

Nathaniel, what do you have against the old fashioned summer camps? You know, the ones with hiking, swimming, archery, Kumbaya, hot dogs, and smores by the campfire. Or do you think they were evil too?

BTW...I thought you were going to be gone for awhile.

2:12 AM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

ryven -- it is the duty of every parent to guide their children to the path of Christ. that is not cowardly, that is duty. in this day of sin and Devilry, peoples' sense of duty has been lost, replaced by a self-centered, self righteous philosophy about our RIGHTS and FREEDOM, when there are no rights other than the ones granted in the Bible.

2:04 PM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

led head -- i am technically away from my desk, but i have temporary access to the internet. this will be changing in a few hours. also, i caught your other comments about my lack of response to some of your other posts. FYI -- you have not won. when i get back and can spare a few moments I will respond. in detail.

2:06 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

No, there are no rights other than those said in the bible according to YOU and people LIKE you, who would like nothing more than to cause hate, death and destruction in the name of a book and an idea. It is NOT everyone's duty to expose their children to that sort of filthy brainwashing. It's our duty to protect and guide our children, not "indoctrine" them into your lifestyle of blind hate and fear.

The things you preach aren't leading anyone toward the light. It's hateful, bullyish filth. Certianly not the sort of Christianity that people have come to revere. You're an extremist, a short step from being a Christian Terrorist. (Spanish Inquisition, anyone?) You don't care about other people. You care about your "beliefs" (read: obsession), your own twisted pride and your "conversion quota".

Believe what you will, but you CANNOT hurt and kill others because your "bible" says so. You condemn so many people to hell, but if there is a hell, we'll all be sure to see you burning there, along with all the other genocidal maniacs.

3:55 PM  
Anonymous Led Head said...

No doubt, Ryven. No doubt.

I still wonder if they didn't create this blog as some bizarre exercise in Juvenalian satire.

Nathaniel--bring it on, by all means.

3:14 AM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

Yeah, I wonder too. Eh, even if it is fake, I consider it a whet-stone for my resolve.

I wish I could find the link to a video I've downloaded. It's a clip of some crazy friggin' Baptist extremist woman getting blasted by the Fox New Channel for protesting outside of a veteran's funeral, with signs like "Thank God for Dead Soldiers". Anyway, it was great, it shows that even conservatives hate the extremists.

4:02 AM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

ryven and led-head -- until someone invents a pill that can keep us alive forever, children are the future. it is our duty to ensure they worship God and live life appropriately. this calls for indoctrination and training. we train our children to play basketball and run laps, to do math and read. it is equally our duty to train them in the ways of the Lord.

10:49 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

Yes, children are our future. We can give them a general heads up as to what the right path is, but we can't take away their own free will and thought by filling their impressionable minds with your own self righteous hatemongering. Children are very impressionable. That doesn't mean we should take advantage of them for our own means. Doing so has never ended well.

1:07 AM  
Blogger Nathaniel said...

ryven -- for someone who constantly expresses their refusal to do their duty as a woman and raise a household of children, you certainly claim to know a lot about child rearing. well let me tell you as a parent that being a parent is all about manipulating our kids. we trick them with stories, we reward them for doing the things we want them to do, we threaten them with spankings and punishment when they don't listen. and all of this goes into developing them into the people we want them to be. but some manipulatons are more effective than others. Spankings, for example, are extremely effective. Rewards, though, are not, turning our children into greedy, spoiled brats. In any event, the beauty of children is that they are so easily manipulated, which is why it is important we begin instilling them with the fear of God at an early age.

1:13 PM  
Anonymous Ryven said...

That is true, I'll concede that. There's always a bit of manipulation when it comes to raising children, in the simplest sense. (I had to practically raise my little brother when I was in school, and I still do to an extent, even after I've moved from home.) But there is a definite difference between giving children materials to become their own person -a sense of conscience, the difference between selfish and unselfish, ect.- and forcing our own religious or political beliefs down a child's throat. When you start doing things like forcing them into a religion, forcing them to echo your political beliefs, hell, even forcing them to be, say, a dancer because you want them to be a dancer, is wrong. Terribly wrong. You're not letting them be their own person. You're shaping them into someone you want them to be, rather than the person they were meant to be. Some children, unfortunately, don't have the will to break free from this, but most grow to resent this forced guidance and break free, often with less-than-desired results.

1:54 PM  

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